tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.comments2013-04-21T03:30:52.521-07:00ControversialSaptarshi Banerjeehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12030955053607089326noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.post-48476195629763928822013-04-21T03:30:52.521-07:002013-04-21T03:30:52.521-07:00well written. You know want? the poems seem to get...well written. You know want? the poems seem to get happier.. :) i think it is the effect of passing out from christShristihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14042483827618400326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.post-35744618067473641412012-01-12T16:13:13.863-08:002012-01-12T16:13:13.863-08:00beautiful.
"You pretty smell, you eyes of s...beautiful. <br /><br />"You pretty smell, you eyes of smoke.<br />Will you be mine to have?"Niyaahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08286872917149749564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.post-10182539054023006462011-05-23T16:09:27.436-07:002011-05-23T16:09:27.436-07:00whom u hav counterd!!! cpm's practice of democ...whom u hav counterd!!! cpm's practice of democratic centralism or over all stalinist practice?<br />settng cpm's practice as parameter to counter stalinist practice is a shallow initiative i thnk..Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02721039170345545166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.post-70200747849582609882010-12-26T23:05:11.848-08:002010-12-26T23:05:11.848-08:00All too true, brother.
But.. Who is to bell the f...All too true, brother.<br /><br />But.. Who is to bell the fking cat?Guruspeakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02221697315287574134noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.post-76474220172969615982010-09-20T17:18:59.999-07:002010-09-20T17:18:59.999-07:00Very good political poetry,the only correction tha...Very good political poetry,the only correction that I would suggest id check the spelling for TROTSKEY (it should be Trotsky)<br /><br />The other thing your "red people" will attack you for putting Trotsky there, secondly only him.<br /><br />I also personally feel that you should consider adding Vladimir,unless it hampers the poetry- Any way write more political poetry & prose-JagadishAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07418171793165618942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.post-24881403581643993032010-09-12T03:14:25.618-07:002010-09-12T03:14:25.618-07:00intersting...suddenly dat famous line rang in my e...intersting...suddenly dat famous line rang in my ears<br />"purnimar chand jeno ek jhalshano ruti...."<br />we da privileged one's do romanticize da sun and da rain bt it is true dat does in da streets cant...bt in da end dese r forces of nature and like...everything else different people look at dem differently........Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09345178211924594282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.post-46146953446987661412010-08-31T07:39:01.861-07:002010-08-31T07:39:01.861-07:00First of all I agree that unwarranted killings and...First of all I agree that unwarranted killings and shootings should be stopped. But it's naive at best (and foolish at worst) to believe that life is as easy as the prima facie representation of facts by EITHER side. But four things first - <br /><br />a) The Prime Minister can't make statements without ascertaining facts. He obviously knew about this and chose to not convey anything until he was clear on all the facts on the ground. This might seem like a stupid thing to do given the deaths and protests in the valley, but his support doesn't just extend to the people, but also the armed forced. He can't make blanket statement blaming people.<br /><br />b)The deaths are a concatenation of a myriad circumstances. The situation is volatile, you can't differentiate between a harmless protester and a suicide bomber/terrorist. Which means, the CRPF/Army/Paramilitary forces are given some lee way. Obviously some people are taking advantage of this and abusing their authority and certainly they should be bought into the purview of justice, but random baying for blood isn't a solution either.<br /><br />c) Kashmir is volatile. They're going to protest no matter what, no thanks to a whole bunch of influences making them do so. They won't stop. If protest are violent, the state will be too. You cant' stop that.<br /><br />d) The solution that the PM proposed is obviously a middle path. There is no other solution that addresses both sides. And since you have no offered any, I'm assuming that you agree with what he said. Sure some people were killed. STOP them from getting killed, don't criticize the idea without reason.<br /><br />Lastly, The question of right to Self Determination of Kashmir is a specious one, especially with respect to independence. A general reading would allow for requirements of statehood to be present before considering nationhood. But I think Self-Determination CAN be had by self-governance and grass-root level participation by the Kashmiris.<br /><br />THAT is the way ahead. And that's EXACTLY what the Prime Minister is doing. I think he's done the best he could in the given situation.Prasad Subramanyanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07770818323528086505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.post-10703550206383016682010-08-11T07:30:09.412-07:002010-08-11T07:30:09.412-07:00You have written briefly but incisively. If I may ...You have written briefly but incisively. If I may add my humble bit, the inherent double standards of the Indian government, since independence regarding J&K requires to be revisited, however briefly. India has always upheld self determination by the populace rather than the ruler, and this was what it used in Nizam's Hyderabad, and other princely states where there was a Hindu majority population but a Muslim ruler. In case of J&K, the price that India and to be fair, Mountbatten asked for helping beleaguered Maharaja Hari Singh, in face of "insurgent tribals" (read Pakistani forces disguised as civilians) overrunning the valley, was a signature by Hari Singh on the instrument of accession. There were legal justifications: such as how could India send armed forces into a Princely State if it was not for self defence (of India's own territory) since until the Chinese invasion Nehru's stand was that India will not fight any war of aggression. However this seems specious. 63 years down the line, we are still trying to survive Nehru's and Patel's disastrous decision. Nehru, as was usual with him, had second thoughts. Thus the promise on media to have a UN brokered Plebiscite, which we have always tried to live down ever since. Why?<br />Because we as Indians are aware deep down, that the people of J&K may not like to be Pakistani, bu they do not consider themselves to be Indians either. They are entitled to self determination just as Bangladesh was. Just as those in erstwhile Hyderabad were.<br />India has to face this, and face this without making political brownie points.Madame Sosostrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10649111319123860140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.post-79178910136916216772010-08-10T12:12:12.911-07:002010-08-10T12:12:12.911-07:00I so agree with you.
All these democracy boasting...I so agree with you.<br /><br />All these democracy boasting words are used by the govt either during elections or during passing a bill, that is more of for their party benefit than people.<br /><br />Secularism is individual right,solely for politicos to fill vote bank.Bhargavi Kashyaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05066318393647542316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.post-57899327681540617532010-08-10T12:00:33.497-07:002010-08-10T12:00:33.497-07:00U inspire me Saptarishi :)
Writin about any rando...U inspire me Saptarishi :)<br /><br />Writin about any random topic is easy...such sensitive topic takes a lot more.<br /><br />Valley is a very sensitive yet ignored area, my brother was posted around dat area, rather in a more war prone area, he told me people their have no faith in government, i see no fault of theirs.<br /><br />Neither early elections nor withdrawing the inhumane army would do any good, the next one to be posted wont be angel from heaven.<br /><br />Resurrection of Kashmiri's now i think is not under govt. control, after so much suffrage they have lost trust.<br /><br />Facts are disheartening, & worse is that these facts are in record, many such cases have gone unnoticed. <br /><br />Expecting some "real" course of action by the next govt is like expecting Sun to rise from west.<br /><br />It feels pathetic to be living is such "democracy".Bhargavi Kashyaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05066318393647542316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.post-60237509566866392272009-12-14T07:13:14.617-08:002009-12-14T07:13:14.617-08:00i am not a student of law, i dont understand any a...i am not a student of law, i dont understand any article, act or amendment...all i know is that every human has a right to live with full respect and dignity. today its telangana, tomorrow gorkhaland and then the whole north east. and why not? india's unbalanced growth policy is not favouring any one of us.<br />we talk about arms race and naxalites but we never try to see the root cause of all this and the only reason is i feel exploitation, ignoring underdeveloped areas, ignoring the basic requirements of people of some regions which definitely hurts the sentiment. <br />i just remember one of the dialogues of Nasiruddin Shah from the movie -"Wednesday" to the goverment or the higher authorities-" logo main gussa bahut hain, azmana bandh kijiye"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.post-77693888578696690282009-11-17T09:43:01.400-08:002009-11-17T09:43:01.400-08:00Well, i agree with you on the fact that wikipedia ...Well, i agree with you on the fact that wikipedia has no arguementative value, but i can assure you of one fact that the word democracy is prohibited in China. I got this piece of information from a friend of my dad who recently visited the country. I personally dont have anything against China, but i just hate the fact that the Chinese government call themselves communists when they're just polished dictators. Authoritarianism is the term that goes well with their policies(just my opinion).<br /> Now coming to the issue of Gorkhaland, i mentiond it to 'highlight the kind of say a common Indian has'. I definitely dont like a party such as BJP, or any other party for that matter, cashing in on the situation for their own benefit.<br /> And for the rest of what you said, its exactly what i have been badgering on all this time about. Democracy with a socialistic touch is whats needed. Hardline communism has failed. Marx, Mao have all been misinterpreted so badly.And you know why that is ? Its because of just one sentence both of them stood by-'dictatorship of the proletariat'. It sounds nice, has romanticism in it, has a utopian feel. But the saddest part is, once it beomes true, the proletariats become nothing but bourgeoisie dictators.<br /> About Che, dont you think he has just become a brand ? He has been commercialised man.They say its 'cool' to have Che on you, but ask them about what Che stood for, what he did, and most of them just stand blank.<br /> Lastly, the biggest example of left failure is right in front of your eyes man, look at the state you live in. How else can you explain a woman such as Mamata Banerjee, who i gravely doubt is sane, single handedly fucking up the left front. I am a part of the Student Federation of India, but when i see the number of people who are in it just for their own benefits, all the blunders, all the corruption, i am really not left with anything to defend the left here. I am not sure where i am taking this, but i had a lot on my mind and needed to clear it. Thats about it, for now. :-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18215783857414654706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.post-3656441400584298222009-11-14T09:35:19.674-08:002009-11-14T09:35:19.674-08:00Subid............firstly i would like to apologise...Subid............firstly i would like to apologise for being so late with my reply <br /><br />now let me come to the text of your reply. Firstly i would want you to understand that though wikipedia is a good platform to start off with your initial readings and explorations of a subject it has no argumentative value as it is void of any authority.<br /><br />What happens most of the time is you go and write something in wikipedia and the next day someone else(any random person) may just go and edit the data. so dont rely on wikipedia much. <br />Now as far as Gorkhaland becoming a national issue is concerned there are trwo sides to it...firstly it does highlight the kind of say a common indian has but on the other it encourages scope of irrelevant politicisation. Let the Gorkha leadership deal with the issue and West bengal government deal with the reply and if at all necessary the central government will surely step in.Do you seriously see any merit with BJP getting a scope to exploit the situation for their own political ambitions.<br /><br />The "one child" plan according to me is a great concept as a principle though i do not agree completetly with it. see familly planning is of huge significance as that is the only way countries like India,China and Brazil can tackle social evil known as population explotion. And if you are aware, the governement has not really said none can give birthto more than one. there is reasonable classification and the plan is limited only within the urban boundaries. More importantly according to a new research survey majority of the chineese population actually does favour this idea. now the flaws come in when there is forced abortions and female infanticide, but then India as a socialist state may indulge into other methods of implementation for such plans. india necessarilly need not follow the chineese footsteps. Infact india does have similar plans with different methods of implementation. the government has prescribed famillies not to give birth to more than two children and if a familly gives birth to a third child the third child is recognised by the state as a citizen of the sovereign withouth certain securities that was made available to the previous ones.<br /><br />and to respond to your last constructive i would like to tell you that yes probably there would have been limitaions on our freedom of expression as citizens of china but that is not a flaw of socialism...........marx never said that. that is an evil that communism comes with and there is a thin line between socialism and communism.<br /><br />you can be a socialist without being a communist my friend. you can go to vote for person x from y party against the left alliances with a shirt put on, that has che on your chest............i want socialism in India, neither communism nor chineese principles and surely not prescriptions made by stalin. it needs to be a democracy with a socialistic touch.Saptarshi Banerjeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12030955053607089326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.post-50456855041917645592009-10-04T12:20:06.310-07:002009-10-04T12:20:06.310-07:00Let me show you some facts.."Although the 198...Let me show you some facts.."Although the 1982 constitution guarantees freedom of speech, the Chinese government often uses the subversion of state power clause to imprison those who are critical of the government.Also, there is very heavy government involvement in the media, with most of the largest media organizations being run directly by the government.[citation needed] Chinese law forbids the advocacy of independence or self-determination for territories Beijing considers under its jurisdiction, as well as public challenge to the CCP's monopoly in ruling China. Thus references to democracy, the Free Tibet movement, Taiwan as an independent state, certain religious organizations and anything remotely questioning the legitimacy of the Communist Party of China are banned from use in publications and blocked on the Internet. PRC journalist He Qinglian in her 2004 book Media Control in China examined government controls on the Internet in China and on all media. Her book shows how PRC media controls rely on confidential guidance from the Communist Party propaganda department, intense monitoring, and punishment for violators rather than on pre-publication censorship."<br /><br />"Foreign internet search engines including Microsoft Live Search, Yahoo!, Google Search China have come under criticism for aiding in these practices, including banning the word "Democracy" from its chat rooms in China. Yahoo! in particular, stated that it will not protect the privacy and confidentiality of its Chinese customers from the authorities,and was criticised by Human Rights Watch and Reporters Without Borders of having "taken on the role of censor."In October 2008, Citizen Lab revealed that TOM Online's Chinese-language Skype software filtered sensitive words and then logged these messages to a file on non-secure computer servers. Skype president Josh Silverman said it was "common knowledge" that TOM had "established procedures to... block instant messages containing certain words deemed offensive by the Chinese authorities.""<br /> Heres some more-"Worker's rights and privacy are other contentious human rights issues in China. There have been several reports of core International Labor Organization conventions being denied to workers. One such report was released by the International Labor Rights Fund in October 2006 documenting minimum wage violations, long work hours, and inappropriate actions towards workers by management.[117] Workers cannot form their own unions in the workplace, only being able to join State-sanctioned ones. The extent to which these organizations can fight for the rights of Chinese workers is disputed."-Wikipedia.<br /> Now think.. would u want these things in the country that u live in ? In India, demands like Gorkhaland become national issues..in China, the government silence the people..the Tibetan uprising is a good example.<br />Would u accept rules like 'one child' plan ? Lastly, if we were living in a country such as China, having this conversation wouldn't have been possible. I too vouch for socialism over capitalism, but not at the cost of democracy.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18215783857414654706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.post-35052641450742406702009-09-29T10:28:31.084-07:002009-09-29T10:28:31.084-07:00I am in complete agreement with you when you say t...I am in complete agreement with you when you say that both these systems have their own flaws and the flaw in socialism is that more often it leads to a dictatorship. Though I agree with you theoretically to this point, but where I disagree is how we perceive dictatorship. Is it enough to call Raul Castro's selection flawed just because he did not go through an election. For me as long as the collective interest of the mass is not being compromised with I personally am cool with it. <br /> <br />Chavez can be called a dictator but has the dictator delivered what the common man wants is what i am trying to focus on here. As long as the answer to the above question is yes I dont mind the person's being dictatorial.<br /><br />And again coming back to China, as you have already said that China has been a flawed model of socialism with huge stock exchanges boosting american dollars, but still they have been quite successful when it comes to resource distribution. In China most people have something rather than few having lot and most having nothing. That is where Chinese socialism has been able to win what it promised.Saptarshi Banerjeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12030955053607089326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.post-47632693637747424982009-09-20T11:32:48.167-07:002009-09-20T11:32:48.167-07:00Nice, real nice. But , the main problem that lies ...Nice, real nice. But , the main problem that lies in the theory of socialism, is that it tries to attain proletariat supremacy(going by what Karl Marx said) and not absolute democracy. The problem with proletariat supremacy is, after coming to power, the proletariats no longer remain proletariats, and this results in something similar to dictatorship. The theories of communism and socialism sound really nice, but has any country actually found success by following only the socialistic path ? Russia was a failure, Cuba has ended in dictatorship(i dont really find logic behind Raul Castro's succession without a democratic election) China, well they're as much capitalists as the united states i'd say..how else would u explain the numerous human rights violations cases that are there against China ? Do you actually know how big a role u.s based companies have played in china's amazing developement. How can a communist country like china have a such a huge stock exchange in Shanghai? It goes against the ethics of communism alltogether.<br /> To sum up, all that i have to say is, socialism is definitely a better alternative to capitalism..but there are numerous flaws in the various theories of socialism..these need to be changed..absolute democracy is much needed..and not dictatorship of the proletariats.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18215783857414654706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.post-948450894258476422009-08-03T11:22:12.936-07:002009-08-03T11:22:12.936-07:00I agree to an extent with you Rithban. But the po...I agree to an extent with you Rithban. But the point is, it is not tough to bring up state of art technology and holistic development even with socialism being the regulating instrument. And I have always believed that wherever capitalism be encouraged to rise any bit, they forget their limits because all capitalists are guided by profit motive. And profit is the only thing they understand, even if others are dying of hunger.<br /><br />Look at China for an example. After all they have a bigger population than us and yet they have better resource management. All that is required in socialism to be successfull is that the people leading the nation and involved in the public sector has to be sincere and honest. That will be enough.Saptarshi Banerjeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12030955053607089326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.post-86513628870957736892009-08-03T10:01:42.123-07:002009-08-03T10:01:42.123-07:00In today's world we need Mixed Economy.....!!!...In today's world we need Mixed Economy.....!!! There should be a balance, between socialism & capitalism,for the growth of the economy. Infrastructural development largely depends on the capitalism, but at the same time, socialism is required to create an equality among all the individuals. So it is useless to make an argument between these two..... we want both socialism & capitalism to stay side by side in our economy. :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05662140053035699482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543929200177417950.post-31463314228041152342009-07-28T12:03:02.501-07:002009-07-28T12:03:02.501-07:00There might be a few spelling mistakes above. Plea...There might be a few spelling mistakes above. Please forgive me for that. I was so engrossed in what i wanted to convey that i did not even carefully edit it once. Anyway please feel free to share your thoughts on the above.Saptarshi Banerjeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12030955053607089326noreply@blogger.com